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  • anilsal
    12-11 12:11 AM
    is bringing a logical explanation to the character of the fence sitters, I-RSVP-But-Do-Not-Show-Up-Nor-Will-I-Inform-
    The-Person-Whom-I-RSVP-As-To-Why-I-Am-Unable-
    To-Attend-An-Important-Chapter-Event, trolls, timid crowd.........

    He is basically saying that some day you will get your GC and Citizenship but will always be Unhappy and searching for something in life. :) :cool::D

    "If not now, then NEVER".....




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  • PD073102VA
    03-19 05:16 PM
    Will advanced degree holder need labor certification?

    I think they will. Here is how the new labor certification clause will read:

    (5) Labor certification and qualifications for certain immigrants.-

    (A) Labor certification.-

    (i) In general.-Any alien who seeks to enter the United States for the purpose of performing skilled or unskilled labor is inadmissible, unless the Secretary of Labor has determined and certified to the Secretary of State and the Attorney General that-

    (I) there are not sufficient workers who are able, willing, qualified (or equally qualified in the case of an alien described in clause (ii)) and available at the time of application for a visa and admission to the United States and at the place where the alien is to perform such skilled or unskilled labor,

    (ii) Certain aliens subject to special rule.-For purposes of clause (i)(I), an alien described in this clause is an alien who-

    (I) is a member of the teaching profession
    (II) has exceptional ability in the sciences or the arts; or
    (III) has an advanced degree in the sciences, technology, engineering, or mathematics from an accredited university in the United States and is employed in a field related to such degree.

    Source: Official Senator Frist's Bill http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c109:1:./temp/~c109BRbYkn:e244507:
    INA Act 212 http://uscis.gov/lpBin/lpext.dll/inserts/slb/slb-1/slb-20/slb-2112?f=templates&fn=document-frame.htm

    So labor certification is required for advanced degree holder in STEM with 3 years of US experience prior to applying will be treated as special a case.

    Also, this clause says that the degree has to be from a US university. I think Attorney Mathew Oh is wrong in saying that graduate degree holders in STEM from foreign universities can apply too.




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  • prabasiodia
    07-17 07:51 PM
    Nicely put paskal.

    Let's do something (call Senators, Representatives, lobby) and put our collective strength behind getting those 200000 unused visas. RECAPTURE is the mantra .

    you must know something i don't.
    aman kapoor is the president and founder of iv- of course you can argue he now has his GC but that fact is he is still the heart and soul of iv and runs the organization on a day to day basis. he is EB3.

    the "core group" does not much exist in practical terms right now. there is instead a large "leaders group" that helps coordinate actions and strategy.
    this group has a lot of active members- and i find it "comfortable" to say that the majority are EB3. which may actually count for something- since i actually do know somethings you don't :-)

    no one stops anyone from doing anything. but whatever you do (and yes you actually have to DO, not just keep talking), has to have a sound basis. Many of the suggestions put forward have flaws, and actually papu and others have been pretty helpful in politely helping to point those out and suggesting changes. of course reddog took objection even to that! incidentally, just for the record, you may want to look at pappu's profile . HE IS EB3!

    so what do you want anyway? should we go tell USCIS that leftover Gc from EB2 ROW should go to EB3 ROW instead of EB2 I/C? what about the 28.6% that should belong to EB2? and since you are EB3 I- how does this help you in any way? or should we tell them to stop the preference catogories in INA and make EB1=EB2=Eb3? somehow i do not think that is going to fly.

    where were you when USCIS implemented vertical spillover in 2006 and left EB2 I in a U state while giving EB2 Gc numbers to EB3 ROW?
    did you object then? did you start a campaign? did EB2 I folks here start saying that iv did not care about them?

    in 2007 ordinarily, (like 06) EB2 I and EB3 I would have got only 2,800 GC each. because of iv's efforts in reversing the july bulletin, EB3 I got a huge number of Gc instead. many more than any other category. i don't remember anyone else standing up and saying that this was unfair and that iv is all about EB3I. and that's what a lot of anti iv folks say. that iv is all about EB3 India. so this is very ironical.

    and i see here a comment that every campaign has been bad for EB3 india.
    i guess july reversal was bad. i guess the campaign for recapture is bad. and the 2 year EAD is bad too. not to mention the gathering support to end country quotas.

    you opened my eyes :-)




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  • gkebiz
    01-14 05:46 PM
    DEAR ALL,
    I was invited to post directly to the President-elect on his site change-gov and you can see my post here...
    http://citizensbriefingbook.change.g...Pos=0&srKp=087

    I request you publicize this as much as possible through your FORUM and ask them to VOTE UP on this issue on the Presidents site so that this is taken as a charter and presented to the President.

    The complete text of the article under the TITLE: IMMIGRATION REFORM ALLOWING H4 VISA SPOUSE TO WORK is posted below for your immediate reference:

    "The time to fix our broken immigration system is now� We need stronger enforcement on the border and at the workplace� But for reform to work, we also must respond to what pulls people to America� Where we can reunite families, we should. Where we can bring in more foreign-born workers with the skills our economy needs, we should." -- Barack Obama, Statement on U.S. Senate Floor, May 23, 2007

    Well said Sir, and now as President-elect, we hope to see some action on above.

    This issue I bring to your attention may seem trivial, but throws light on darker side of the life of dependent H4 visa holders, who are mostly women. And since you endorse women empowerment, I believe you will give a serious look at this idea.

    Theres a strong lobby support for increasing H-1B visa cap to address the shortage of skilled workers. Theres also a strong lobby opposing it. This idea will satisfy both the lobbies. A very simple way to literally double the number of already available skilled workers in the USA without having to increase the visa cap. Allow me to explain....

    Currently the spouse of H-1B holders, the H4 visa holders are not allowed to work. Most of these H4 Visa holders are qualified, skilled and experienced. In one stroke of the pen, by amending this tiny rule allowing H4 visa holders to work, you will facilitate thousands, if not millions of already legal & available skilled workers in the US, to work. Please note that spouse on L2 Spouse/Dependent visas for L1 visa holders (intra company transferee's), ARE allowed to work through an amendment in 2001. And this can be used as a precedent. Even J and E Visa spouses (J2, E2) are allowed to work.

    Good For the Economy: While its now a norm to have a dual-income family where the husband and wife both work, its become all the more necessary for a family to just survive through these unprecedented economic times. H1-B visa workers typically stay on for at least 3 years continuously if not extend it for the next available 3 years. All this while, the poor H1B and his family have to get along with just one income. Moreover, the law also forces the skilled and experienced spouse on H4 to idle at home. This I believe is a loss of national productivity. Your statistics will prove how many H-4's are currently idling away in the US.

    Good for the Community & Social standing of Women:
    To keep the family together, H1 visa holders bring in their spouse on H4 visa. And then, they get locked in the house. Ninety percent of H4 visa holders are women. Women being, more susceptible to domestic violence by the partner, becomes even more prone to violence due to her complete dependence on the spouse. They become prisoners in USA due to spousal abuse and immigration policies that give their husbands complete control over their lives. Yes, the immigration system is broken. The immigrant women get protection under VAWA but non-immigrants are not covered. Even if a law to let the non-immigrant battered women to obtain work permit is introduced, it might not protect women whose cases are dismissed as non-critical. The abuser can further exert his control over the victim and convince her that he has changed so that the victim might not press charges. Thus the abuser gets encouraged to continue violence. Divorce is not an option because most non-immigrants come from third world countries where a divorced women has to bear the social stigma of divorce and will not be protected in her own home country. Because of the long queues for Labor certification application and retrogression of visa numbers, getting an EAD and Green Card takes longer.

    Way Forward:

    You plan to legalize people living illegally in USA (and working illegally), you plan to give them a low skilled requirement job visa, similar to the H-1B or L-1, only that skills required are low, and you will let their spouses work too. This will mean that the only resident visa holder NOT AUTHORIZED TO WORK will be the H-4 visa holders.

    As a tech-savvy President, you may also want to browse this issue on Google groups and hear the voices of depressed, frustrated and more often abused women, here... Oops. I am unable to provide you the link as it appears to violate the change.gov comment policy (?). The group title is misc.immigration.usa and title is Why USA should issue the dependant visa holders work-authorization? Theres another forum under immigrationvoice.org you may wish to look up. Thanks.

    When people who have come to the US illegally will be able to work legally � the poor H4 souls (mostly skilled women) who have come legally and followed all the rules should be given a fair chance to contribute to the economy and better their quality of life. By a simple amendment, allowing the H4 visa holders to work, you will make a brilliant move, without upsetting those who oppose the move to INCREASE the current H1B cap. Please think about it. May God Bless America!



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  • chmur
    07-18 07:28 PM
    Excellent response. I have been a silent admirer of IV for some time. IV has represented the aspirations of all the EB applicants. people should understand that the US allotment of visas to foreign Nationals is only based on what is fair for the country (US). It does not matter to them to what country the applicant belongs but what matters is the qualifications and their benefit to the advancement of the US. I am appauled to see some of the members racheting up this irrational discussion about the spillovers when DOS clearly stated recently what the intent of the law was. the sooner they get over this issue, the better for them and for every one on the forum as the existing rules will NOT change regarding the spillover. we have to concentrate our efforts on how we can improve conditions for every body affected by this retroression. efforts aimed at one category and that too one country will almost certainy fail. I am also shocked to see a few EB3 I expressing anger over dates moving for EB2. personally if I see a person from my country getting his visa approved, then I would feel very happy for him even if I am waiting for some time. I know it will be difficult, but atleast spare some joy for your country men and women who are getting some well deserved relief after such a long wait. one of my old friends told me once "if you have a friend from India, don't rely on him to help you, because you will not get much help moreover some people will only try to pull you down, but if you take people from other countries, it is exactly the opposite as they try to help each other in every possible way". I agree that it is very distressing for every one that the dates are retrogressed, but now that EB2 has moved, all of a sudden some people woke up from a deep sleep and started making these arguments that have no legal basis. None of these people expressed their anger when EB3 ROW was being preferred over more qualified EB2 I and C and making EB2 unavailable. I know a lot of people from EB2 protested at this wrong interpretation of the law, but I don't remember anyone ever criticizing IV for not taking up their cause even though we knew all along that spillover from EB1 to EB2 retrogressed countries was the right interpretation of the law. now some people are asking IV to take up an issue that is straight forward illegal as was clearly explained by DOS in a recent bulletin. instead of wasting time and efforts on such futile suggestions, people should concentrate on making some constructive effort along with IV helping every one involved in retrogression.


    "I am appauled to see some of the members racheting up this irrational discussion about the spillovers when DOS clearly stated recently what the intent of the law was. the sooner they get over this issue, the better for them and for every one on the forum as the existing rules will NOT change regarding the spillover".

    Are you suggesting we "Get over the spill over issue" because that's what current law says ??

    Then by that logic, should we get over the "recapture issue" too?? because that's what current law says...now I am appalled.

    As I understand, IV's objective is to change laws in favor of the immigrant community. Agreed Recapture is priority #1 since it alleviates majority of our concerns, but is it the only one ?? Especially when recapture happens to be the most difficult one to achieve . Answer is NO.

    IV has scored so many smaller wins in the recent past to provide temporary relief to the community at large.

    You say "I am also shocked to see a few EB3 I expressing anger over dates moving for EB2".

    Some EB3s might have expressed jealousy .Shame on them. But most are expressing anger because EB3 is "U" and the spillover formula will keep them retrogressed for years to come and not because EB2 moved ahead . Godd for Eb2s.

    Your India specific jealousy example can be applied of any country. India does not hold monopoly over jealous acts. People are jealous not countries.

    You say, "None of these people expressed their anger when EB3 ROW was being preferred over more qualified EB2 I and C and making EB2 unavailable".

    IMO, this is frivolous...this kind of questions can be countered by equally frivolous question like ..... How many Eb2s are now expressing their anger over this years interpretation of spillover laws by DOS??




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  • eb3_nepa
    07-28 04:41 PM
    First off i take offence to my spouse being called a "Skill-Less Free Rider". That is by far the most offensive and ridiculous thing anyone has said about H4s. Most spouses on H4 are neither skill-less nor are they here solely for their Green Cards. Infact there are cases where the H4 is More qualified than the primary H1 applicant in their own field, just that it is not an H1b type field or there is no H1B quota etc.

    It would be great if the moderators can please remove such offensive stuff when they get a chance. It is one thing to have freedom of speech and it is another to abuse that freedom.

    If L2's can work then why not H4s is my simple point. I wonder if we can ask for these kind of smaller reliefs from the law-makers.



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  • walking_dude
    10-19 01:37 PM
    We have E-mailed 800+ IV members who have indicated they're from Michigan, Called some 30+.

    We have got good response. We'll know the exact numbers when we meet. Confirmed members may not show up, others may change their mind at the last moment and just drop by. It's hard to predict right now.

    A lot of members are interested in "Knowing" what we are doing. Best way to know is "Participate". By attending the meeting you're getting added to the "MI chapter circle of trust" - that is members we feel safe in passing on sensitive and confidential info we get from IV core. We also feel it safe to pass on information about activities covered by IV Non-disclosure policy such as Lawmaker meetings and responses we get, with members we have met personally, talked and know their background. Posting such sensitive info here or on the google groups is not possible as it will be picked up by anti-immigrants trolling IV for such info.

    Bottomline : Anybody missing the meeting is missing the opportunity to have access to IV "insider information" which will never be made public to people outside the "trusted circle".

    Worst case, even if around 20 guys show up, it's a great start as I've heard that some chapters started of with 5-10 people and now have 100+ members. Don't worry, we will get there.

    This is Ashish from Canton, MI. Will surely meet you guyz tomorrow. So, finally how many people, WD?




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  • sam_i02
    07-16 07:27 PM
    Constangy, Brooks and Smith in North Carolina (I live in MD and we have never met each other)

    This is the law firm i am using and i have nothing but excellent things to say about them. I am convinced that they truly care about thier clients. They have worked weekends to file my AOD/EAD/TA on time + as soon as the recent "july bulletin filp-flop" occured, they filed my H1B/H4 extension immediately so i could be eligble for a 3 year extension (as opposed to one). My employer pays them, but they work directly with me.

    Attorney: Penni Bradshaw

    Paralegal: April Shepherd (she is the one who worked with me the entire time - even gave me her cell number so i could reach her outside office hours!)

    Telephone:
    336.721.1001

    Good luck.



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  • larun
    05-29 08:05 AM
    Contribution: $50.00
    Receipt ID: 1076-0304-7610-2177

    Go IV!!




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  • Karthikthiru
    06-08 03:46 PM
    I would definitely agree that even if CIR comes back it has lot of negative things for people who are comming legally like us. We need to think of a different strategy which does not require a legislation which brings lot of attention against us. I can personally say that I will atleast add 10 more members with recurring contributions in a short time. Right now I will double or triple by monthly recurring contributions. I do agree with the core members that we do need lot of money now to lobby. There are are communities which I don't want to say publicly - even though there are in small numbers they have laws passed in favour of them. It is very simple - we need the MONEY POWER

    Karthik



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  • CADude
    03-14 01:07 PM
    It's slow poison.. Great deception. You can't get it and You can't let it go. After waiting so long (7+ years in GC road) I got nirvana. One early morning I think over back and relies what the hell I did with my life and career for this stupid card. So I put my energy in study. Hoping to complete MBA by summer and move forward. Waited so long so i don't have any more patience or emotion left. I have to move on with life.. :p

    Have a cup of coffe, it is sprint break time, I am taking my daughter out....also I am going to meet some friends over this weekend.

    This EB-2, EB-3, ROW, India, China..... only hurts me when I think about it! As long as I am busy with my day to day life.....life is beautiful.

    Going to make a cup of coffee and watch my fav song on YouTube! Cheers...




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  • Karthikthiru
    04-28 05:55 PM
    Just send $ 100.00 through PayPal


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  • ramvinay
    06-14 10:03 AM
    Thank you all very much for answering my question , I feel much better now.
    Just a quick follow up.
    I am assuming she can continue to work on her OPT till we get our EAD cards or her H1?
    Thanks for your response.





    Yes, certainly your wife can apply for I-485, that has nothing to do with your whether your wife is on F-1 or H-1.
    Her H,F etc. status continues independently of the Adjustement of Status petition. (Yes she can file even while in F-1 as she is not the primary beneficiary but your dependent for I-485)

    Infact as soon as your wife get's her I-485 receipt, she is legally in status even if she loses her F, H etc. status.

    Moreover I can say all this since I know someone who is an exact similar situation.




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  • pdFeb09
    06-15 09:01 AM
    Guys,

    I am in EB2 ADP with PD Feb'09. No cheating there ! :)

    I understand that if a lot of EB3 guys, who have been waiting for years, start porting to EB2, they will end up in the queue before me :(. And with that knowledge, I will still support EB3-EB2 porting.

    EB3 guys, porting is your best option. I hear a lot of EB2 asking you to go get a new job where they are willing to
    a. Hire you with your H1B status,
    b. Agree to file your GC, and
    c. Agree to do it in EB2 category. (Think about the min wage they have to give and prove etc.)

    It is way easier said than done in the current economy. But if you find one, go for it. That is a way of respite for you folks. For others, try porting to EB2 with your current company.

    There have been cases where EB3 was filed when the candidate was eligible for EB2 and there have been cases other way round too. But talking about none of them helps your cause. Similarly, fighting amongst us doesn't help either. Don't get me wrong if I say that with EB2 movement, if EB2 becomes current by the end of next year, EB3 will start seeing a good benefit of spill overs. So with current laws, getting EB2 out of the way will actually help your cause

    Eliminating per country limit will help everyone. We should fight for that, EB3 and EB2 together.

    Seriously try for porting. I have been waiting just a year, and already know how many decisions get put on hold because of this process.

    My heart goes out to you !



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  • Jaime
    09-05 03:35 PM
    Take the poll! What will it take to get you to attend the rally?




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  • howzatt
    12-10 04:32 PM
    WOW. What a stupid thread? The OPs anger and frustration might be justified. However, his tone and language used is a bad choice. This is obviously not the first time.

    I have said this before; Calling people names or using stupid analogies is not the way to encourage people to volunteer or contribute.

    Your method of constantly bashing people and calling people names is unfortunately reflective of the organisation and core team as a whole. Do you even think before you hit the "submit" button? Imagine if a CEO starts making stupid remarks about his employees. Would it have a positive effect or negative effect? How many of the senior members really approve this approach? This approach will only alienate people further.

    Amma came out and apologised for her mistake. Will logiclife do the same? I guess he does not have to. I am not sure if he has issued any apologies in the past. If he hasn't, this might be a good time to do it.

    OLDMONK makes good points. I expect other senior members to respond by asking me what or how I contributed so far. Just to avoid more posts, I started off contributing but could not motivate myself after having seen numerous stupid posts from different people. Ofcourse, some people will use this behaviour as an excuse to not do anything.

    Logiclife's post does nothing good. It only increases the separation between the so called volunteers and bench warmers. People deserve to be treated with respect and that is something he needs to realize.



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  • sk.aggarwal
    08-21 04:51 PM
    I guess it depends... I would prefer to slog with weather in Canada for 3 years and get citizenship instead of stuggling for 4-5 years with desi consultanting company to get GC. My sixth year is about to start in december 2009 and employer has told that they will not sponsor GC. I am planning to take citizen ship from Canada and then move back to India. That way, anytime I want to come back to US/Canada doors will be open. I guess, there is no right or wrong answer, its a matter of choice.




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  • Jaime
    09-10 11:24 AM
    Come on guys, we can change many minds! How many minds have you changed? How many are we changing today? Together we CAN!!!




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  • rabs
    05-19 06:41 AM
    Thank you for contacting me about the issue of immigration. I understand and appreciate your deep concerns. As you know, several members of Congress have proposed various reforms. These proposals deal with a broad range of issues including our national security, border enforcement, guest worker programs, immigrant children, a path to citizenship, and the issues of immigrant workers in agriculture, seasonal jobs, and high-skilled positions.

    Michigan faces unique immigration issues as a major border state with Canada, and I have helped to increase resources along our northern border. In addition, my office has been contacted by thousands of Michigan citizens about their problems with our broken federal immigration system. I am well aware of the urgent need for reform and the impact of our system on those trying to navigate this complicated bureaucracy.

    For these reasons, I believe that we must consider any reforms to our immigration system in a comprehensive and balanced manner, first and foremost taking into account our nation's security, the jobs of American workers, the rights of individuals and the economic interests of our state. I will keep your strong views in mind as the Senate considers this issue.


    Thank you again for contacting me. Please continue to keep me informed about issues of concern to you and your family.



    Sincerely,

    Debbie Stabenow

    United States Senator



    U.S. Senator Debbie Stabenow
    The United States Senate � Washington, DC 20510
    stabenow.senate.gov




    aquarianf
    07-27 12:22 PM
    Hey, thanks for the support. Please talk to anyone who know has been affected personally. Please spread the word. I with few other people will talk to a lawyer soon on this to get things initiated.

    But we will need enough support to gather a critical mass and start things rolling in the right track.

    So can we have a online form where everyone affected can sign in? How do we do that?


    Did you talk to IV core about this issue? What is there position on this issue? Have they raised this issued when they lobby/meet conngressman/congresswomwn/senators regarding other agendas. If not may be you can your help to raise this issue when they meet with lawmakers.




    paskal
    09-22 10:30 AM
    "Guys like you are not capable of comprehending the whole issue here and even if you are, you cannot articulate."

    yup we are poor uneducated illiterate and inarticulate.
    thank you to you, our savior. tell us what your grand scheme is please.
    we are ready to follow you master...



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