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  • vdlrao
    07-15 05:36 PM
    Not sure I follow you. How are we getting 50K spill over visas?

    I already mentioned in my previous posts (multiple posts with same matter for people like you and me, see it and understand it well) how we are getting more than 50k visas just for EB2 India. I am giving it here again the visa allotments for 2006 and 2007 years when theres vertical fallouts. Now its changed to horizontal fall outs.

    Due to this as many of us think its not the EB3 India which is losing, but its EB3 ROW.



    Class --------------------------------------> 2006 | 2007

    Total Employment-based Approvals ----------> 159,081 | 162,176

    EB1 ---------------------------------------> 36,960 | 26,697

    EB2 ---------------------------------------> 21,911 | 44,162

    EB3 ---------------------------------------> 89,922 | 85,030

    Fourth:-------------------------------------> 9,539 | 5,481

    Fifth (investors) ----------------------------> 749 | 806


    See the Total Employment Based Visa approvals for 2006 and 2007 159,081 and 162,176. But there are only 140,000 visas in EB category. The rest of the visas came from Family Based visas which are not used for the previous fiscal year. The share for each category: Each EB1, EB2 and EB3 should get 1/3 of 140,000 = 46,666. But due to the less demand in EB1 and EB2 ROW all the visas falling to EB3 ROW due to the Vertical falling.


    EB1 ROW --> EB2 ROW --> EB3 ROW.

    EB1 INDIA --> EB2 INDIA --> EB3 INDIA.

    As theres not much demand for EB1 ROW and EB2 ROW, all the unused visas are going to fall to EB3 ROW. So from this time its going to be like Horizotal fall out like below.


    EB1 ROW/EB1 INDIA --> EB2 ROW/ EB2India/ EB2China-->EB3ROW/EB3 INDIA.


    So this time to fall any VISAS into EB3 ROW they have to pass through EB2 India/EB2 China. So this makes EB3 ROW dates would retrogress due to the decrease in visa numbers availabilty.

    As I said each category would have 46,666. So EB1 and EB2 together will have around 93,332 visas. But in EB1+EB2 in 2006 about 50,000 visas approved and in 2007 about 70,000 visas approved. So for 2008 also asume the demand for EB1 and EB2 is 70,000. But the availability of VISAS are 93,332 as said above + unused family visas which come around 19,000+.

    So for this 2008 fiscal year for EB2 India and China the total visa numbers availlable are


    (93,332 +19,000) - 70,000 = 42,332.


    So around 42 thousand + 9,800 (regular 7% of 140k) = around 52k Visas Just for India , because EB2 China was already Jan 2006 a year back. And I dont think it would take any considerable share in this 50k other than its regular 9,800 visas.


    Get me back if you have any doubts.




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  • asanghi
    09-19 05:02 PM
    To everyone who thinks rallies dont make a difference, as described here : http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=13583

    This is not an attack post. Or a criticizing post. This is purely educational and please keep this thread clean.

    I know there are many out there who are snickering in their cubicles looking at the pictures of the rally and thinking "Look at these idiots, they think Congress will pass SKIL bill because they walked 1.2 miles with some placards and banners".

    Such thinking is reasonable. But only if you dont know how things work.

    Here is why rally of Sept 18th will be consequential:

    1. When you do a rally, people notice. People recognize organization and measure its strength. It stays in their heads for a long time and they keep Immigration Voice as one of the organizations they can ask for support when they push for their own cause. In Congress, things work based on compromise, consensus and consultation. People dont just sponsor legislations they believe in. They run it thru their caucus and leadership and do a vote count. To find out how many votes would they get if they came up with this new idea. Whether it will get 218 votes in House. Whether they will get 51 votes in senate. If its filibuster proof and get 61 votes in Senate. Whether it has committee support. Whether leadership offices are in agreement to put it in schedule. All this happens in background and there are people who are hired in committees just to do vote counts on proposed ideas. IF it turns out they dont find enough support, they drop it. If they think they can pull it off, they approach leadership (Speaker in House, Maj leader in Senate) to put it in queue.

    2. Let us say that Congressman X wants to sponser SKIL bill because of his constituency or a senator (like Feinstein) wants to sponsor AgJobs because food growers are having food rotten in absence of agricultural workers, a compelling cause. Now, when they want to pass legislation, they have to look for support and votes as described in item 1. When they fall short, they find ways to sweeten the pot. IF they see that a powerful organization will throw in their support and lobbying in favor of their bill if they attach a few of that organization's provisions, then they approach them. Immigration Voice did 138 lawmakers meetings (in House and Senate). They did the rally. They would consider IV as a organization that can help them PUSH for their legislation. Now we have a place at the negotiating table. If they attach our provisions (like recapture, or GC quota increase), then we can promise to do something for them. Like support the entire bill they are pushing for. They know that we can do rallies and we can do hundreds of lawmaker meetings. If Diane Feinstein (just an example) thinks that by adding skilled employment based reform provisions she can get IV's support and swing a few votes to help her pass her favorite AgJobs bill, then we have opportunity where the Senator would ask us what we want rather than us going and asking them to do things for us. One of IV members said that on the day of the rally, suddenly the office of her senator called her and scheduled and appointment to meet the same day at 4:00 PM. She had been trying to get the appointment but after they rally and Roll call newspaper ad (http://immigrationvoice.org/media/forums/iv/rollcal3a.pdf), they called her to listen to her. I heard about this from her just as the rally was over.

    3. CIR has recently failed. From some meetings, I got the feeling that CIR's failure has left a bad taste in mouth and many people in Congress as well as administration are very upset about it still. Now that we have done this rally, done lawmaker meetings, put a rollcall ad, did the media blitz, press conference, congressional reception (where 4 congressmen attended and spoke in IV's support), they know that it would be a good idea to keep IV on their side and put some of their things in a bill. Next time they write a bill (behind closed doors very often), they will consult us and ask us if they can do something for IV to win IV's full support. That's because by getting IV's support on their side for whatever they are doing, they can be assured that we wont oppose it but instead support it. With phone calls, Rallies, paid ads, lawmaker meetings etc. If they are really investing in getting a bill passed, they would include our provisions just to increase the odds.

    Strength respects strength. If we have the strength to do things and make a difference (rallies, meetings, receptions, press conferences, paid ads), then that strength begets more strenght because other powers want us to join hands with them so that they can do their favorite things (AgJobs, DREAM etc).

    I thought the rally helps bring attention to our cause and put pressure. I never knew so many things go on behind the scenes.

    I think by the time we get our green cards, we all will be experts in the nitty gritty of American Politics




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  • alias
    10-26 02:33 PM
    Hi,

    I am just wondering how USCIS can take the GC card back.
    Say for example, I have filed my I-485 and it got approved (with out any regard of whethe my pd is current or not )and a card has been issued. If I take the card for granted and started utilizing it, how am I voilating my status. Isn't this USCIS responsibility to make sure that they issue properly or not. The applicant might never know whether his PD is current or not. In this case how could USCIS can take your card back. If they can, Can't we sue them ?

    and my attorney said "If you were to pull up to a ATM and withdraw $100, but for some reason the machine spits out $1000, what do you do?". Well, you can keep the money and drive away or walk into the bank and give the 900 dollars back. But if you are caught of not returing that money latter then that would speak about your wrong intention by itself. So at that point you may be actioned based on whatever law exists. In this case however it is very clear, USCIS can revoke your green card anytime.




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  • sk.aggarwal
    08-21 11:10 AM
    I recently applied under 0213. I agree process is not as complicated as it sounds also I am not sure what value add a lawyer will do apart from keying information from you in the forms. My suggestion - do it on your own. Use this forum Skilled Worker / Professional Immigration (http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/skilled-worker-professional-immigration-b4.0/)

    and this step by step guide
    http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/guides/EG7.pdf



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  • krishnam70
    03-05 06:07 PM
    This is confusing. In that case how do they make ROW current or PDs way ahead of India? In other words, how do they know without touching a file that PD of a ROW file is current and is eligible to get GC!

    Think about the flip side. If this is true, then once they preadjuridict all cases, thousands of ROW cases will immediately become eligible to get GC and India / China will not move for year(s)!

    :D
    They have already provided some kind of information to the Ombudsman's office so they must already have that information. It makes no sense otherwise how they would determine how many number of visa's they have available for each country or determine what are the PD's for each country.

    OR
    They do not have any program that can do it like that and that is why they did not use the full quota of visas which might have come out due to the inquiry of the Ombudsman's office.

    Nixtor,
    I did not say it was easy with bureaucracy and security, my response had those concerns highlighted on the other hand you may be right about the process being extremely manual where a physical verification is needed on each file which means all of us are in deep sh**t because they are working on some vague assumptions that visa numbers are /arent available and in the process we might be losing out something more or there is probably a gaint 'REGISTER' somewhere where people go and make physical entries :D:D every time a visa is allocated which will give the count... like an account book. all the above in jest ofcourse

    Something ought be done about it and either way we should report it to Media and Ombudsman's office and if we still want to pay up the $5000 we can do so.


    -cheers
    kris




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  • chaanakya
    04-10 01:11 AM
    Dear Dr. Teli (I am sure you are a Dr. because you dont let facts or reality come in the way of your diagnosis of a situation, argument or person, only a PhD can do that)

    Thank you for doing the homework on my 1 year of postings..Not even my wife pays that much attention to me, makes me feel really valuable :)

    I could have told you that. I have never contributed any money to IV and probably never will. Because i dont think they are doing anything. I have, however, answered a few people's questions about AP or H4 visa (something with which i had to spend a lot of time researching). That is the extent of my "contribution". I just answered a few earnest questions to the best of my ability.

    You can attack me all you want. For example, probably I am not EB2..Hmm, I thought EB2 was an employment category and not a species classification but I may be wrong...

    Anyway, what happens is that whenever a new visa bulletin rolls out, there are all these posts which basically say
    1. Contribute
    2. We must do something
    3. What is IV core doing
    4. Where is VDLRAO
    5. When will the injustice end
    etc etc etc

    I have been seeing this for the last 3 years. First things first, If you want to take action, spend 41 cents every day and send a letter to your congressman or senator everyday for 1 year....For $149 per year (365 * 0.41 not counting leap years and counting on the fact that you will mail a letter even on holidays :))
    At the end of the year, at least you have something to show for what you did. With IV, you can convince people that Patton Boggs is doing all they can for you, Trust them.

    I am not blaming the Core at all, they are doing whateven they can given the limited resources, time and influence they have. But, what I am blaming, is the the "holier than thou" attitude which is adopted when distinguishing between those that are the exalted DONORS and those that aren't :)



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  • dixie
    11-07 10:57 PM
    Only 10% of the general public said immigration is the most important issue for them - and mind you, ILLEGAL immigration and amnesty to illegal aliens is what comes to mind of most average americans. The perceived opposition to CIR was blown out of proportion by the conservatives and their media cronies like Lou Dobbs. That it did not work clearly shows that the american public too mature and sensible to be carried away by such rhetoric.
    I am not sure but one thing we can see a lot of anti immigration conservatives are not doing too good at house.. so what does this mean.. immigration is an issue by the conservative talk shows...Lou Dobbs.. and people like them and not the gen US public ???




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  • priya23
    07-23 04:33 PM
    anybody with any experiences with barst & mukamal in NY



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  • waiting4gc
    07-18 01:58 PM
    Now I see why you got banned. What you did not realize is others were not rejoicing anything "AT YOUR EXPENSE". They were just enjoying what was available to them. You are the one who wants to make it a zero sum game i.e. gain for others is loss for you and vice versa.

    While others were celebrating what was good for them, you want to rejoice others pain. That is just *sic*. I retract my earlier support for you.

    Do I think that its unfair that people (I started my GC in May 04) from 06,07 will clog up queue, yes, but such is life. Can't do much about that can we? So enjoy whatever good is happening. Please remember, what goes around comes around. If you rejoice others unhappiness, you too will soon join them.

    Quote from LogicLife's post

    'And finally, if you do rejoice at the revisions of July bulletin because that would somehow do justice to you and your other BEC brothers, please rejoice privately, not publicly. Rejoice all you want, if that's what gives you happiness, but send PMs to your BEC friends or do it over the phone. Have a barbeque at your home. Have a conference call and celebrate. '

    If all others can rejoice the open of visa filing at our expense publicly, why couldn't we rejoice something that'd bring fairness? Why don't they rejoince in private? You think they have us in mind? I call that BS.




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  • av2004
    05-19 11:04 AM
    I sent the messages to my senators yesterday and also asked a few of my friends and colleagues to do the same.. Hoping for something positive!!



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  • starscream
    06-26 12:16 AM
    Per AILA:...2 BIG 'IFs'

    Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) has scheduled a procedural vote on a motion to proceed with the Senate immigration reform bill (S. 1639) for Tuesday, June 26, 2007. If the motion passes with 60 or more votes, senators will begin debate on a negotiated list of 24 amendments, split evenly between the two parties.

    Debate and votes on the amendments will continue until the morning of Thursday, June 28, at which point the bill will be put to a second procedural vote to limit debate. If it passes with 60 or more votes, the Senate will have 30 hours of additional time to debate and vote on the outstanding amendments. If the bill survives this procedural gauntlet, a vote on final passage could occur late on Friday or possibly Saturday.




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  • bestin
    10-17 10:36 PM
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


    I am coming.
    .................................................. .....


    Guys utilise the opportunity .Only a few days more.Guys from far of places .....Dont think u need to travel so far for a couple of hours.After the meeting you can plan some temple,desi cinema nearby.BTB there are also lot of good Indian restaurants.Give your family a break .....Enjoy the trip.;)



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  • dsva
    07-01 12:22 PM
    Earlier today I got an email from USCIS that said
    "Application Type: I485 , APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS

    Current Status: Card production ordered.

    On June 29, 2008, we ordered production of your new card. Please allow 30 days for your card to be mailed to you. If we need something from you we will contact you. If you move before you receive the card, call customer service. You can also receive automatic e-mail updates as we process your case. Just follow the link below to register."

    Then by the evening my I-485 said
    "Application Type: I485 , APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS

    Current Status: Notice mailed welcoming the new permanent resident.

    On June 30, 2008, we mailed you a notice that we had registered this customer's new permanent resident status. Please follow any instructions on the notice. Your new permanent resident card should be mailed within 60 days following this registration or after you complete any ADIT processing referred to in the welcome notice, whichever is later. If you move before you get your new card call customer service. You can also receive automatic e-mail updates as we process your case. Just follow the link below to register."

    Problem My EB2 PD is not current, is this a system glitch or did I get GC?

    Here are my stats
    PD 2007/ India
    Arrived on H4 Sept 1997
    Change to F1 Jan 1999
    Change to H1B Sept 2004
    Applied extension Sept 2007
    Applied for PERM June 2007
    PERM Approved June 2007 EB-2 (approval in 4 days)
    filed I-140, I-485 in the July madness
    I-140 RFE March 2008
    I-140 Approved May 2008
    I-485 RFE May 2008
    I-485 Approved June 30, 2008

    What is the PD on your approved I-140?




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  • logiclife
    09-19 07:00 PM
    If we support DREAM act, they will support SKIL bill.

    Who are they?, they do not have any voice or vote anywhere. They are ILLEGAL, they broke the law.

    Are you kidding me? You think that undocumented are not represented in Washington? You think that DREAM act has no sponsors?

    Well, I have news for you. Durbin and 2 other senators are going to try to add DREAM to DoD appropriations bill this week. It may not pass but it doesnt mean that there are no supporters or sponsors of DREAM, AgJobs etc. Every single component of CIR has a champion in congress.



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  • walking_dude
    10-04 03:05 PM
    I'm sure he'll join. There are a few more DC rally veterans like newhorizon and Iv2007 (I guess). Guys, where art thou?

    Are you the same Anil I met outside the Washington Monument with a chinese lady? I guess you are as you told us about your Gandhi signature then.

    He was handling MI chapter.




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  • paskal
    02-12 05:47 PM
    And users should able to give numbers in that.. not just radio options..
    And i remember most of the people are sending letters only to President not a copy to IV.

    How does sending letters to IV matters?

    Between my side i sent letter to president and requested 10 of my friends to do so..

    it matters
    when meetings take place on such issues, it's important to carry the large number of petition letters along...it has an important impact.
    please do mail copies to iv also- can put them all in one envelope and send.


    i have about 30 letters with me now (including 6 from another MN chapter members), many more are still in the works and i have friends working on it too...



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  • Madhuri
    07-19 12:08 PM
    Anybody knows what happens to our SS money? If we become canadian citizen do we get that at the time of retirement?
    Any idea?
    ya in the end i may want to come back to US but you never know if we like it in Canada and my kid settles down there we may end up being there and forget about US :)
    For now im surely taking atleast 10 jobs from here.




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  • reddymjm
    06-15 09:58 PM
    Understood every point of yours & I stand by what you said except for the language as it could have been a bit better. Regarding EB3 or EB2, maybe IV should work attaching a provision as part of its CIR work, which makes USCIS determine whether a candidate is in EB3 or EB2 based on the PERM & 140 instead of letting companies & attorneys mention it. If this happens the process will be much better as USCIS controls the categories & applicants do not need to beg a company to throw them into an EB2 basket or EB3 basket. Also, applicants can have certain amount of freedom from the companies.

    When a process is flawed, there is always room for abuse. Of course, the abuse might be minimal, but when we see people with masters & 15 years of experience toiling in EB3 category it pains my heart. It is a fact there could be lesser qualified inidividuals who are in EB2 category, but the companies have managed to use these to hold the employees as hostage.

    Hopefully USCIS someday understands this and takes control of assigning applicants into categories than asking company & attorney to mention.

    Just sharing my two cents. Also, frustrations from EB3 should be tolerated by IV members, instead of beating them with "red dots". Because if we request members to put their time and effort then it would be mostly EB3 members as they are the "worst" affected. I am sure every year between july-sept most of EB2 members will do bulletin-watching & there is nothing wrong in it.

    Next year by this time only EB3 will be here and I dont think many of the EB2 will even bother to read the forum. God bless EB3. Even for those guys with PD in 2003 if you think that you will be lucky in year or two, try buying lottery tickets too. You might win a jackpot.

    Good Luck guys...




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  • vkotval
    06-13 08:57 PM
    * USCIS Processing Fees
    I-485: $325.00
    (Per person) I-131: $170.00
    I-765: $180.00
    Fingerprints: $ 70.00
    TOTAL $745.00


    * USCIS Processing Fees I-485: $225.00
    (Per CHILD under I-131: $170.00
    14 years of age) I-765: $180.00
    TOTAL $575.00




    goel_ar
    03-29 10:35 AM
    I read the news too at The Oh Law Firm (http://www.immigration-law.com/)

    Hope this hold and comes true. All the best to my brothers and me.
    Happy over one-week movement?




    eb3_nepa
    07-05 11:18 AM
    Matthew OH is playing with words since yesterday. I am not even sure if he knows what he is talking about. Did you guys read the stuff about 485 filing. The phrase "Untangling the tangled mess" was mentioned 3-4 times. After reading his notices, one has to wonder what the heck is he talking about.



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